74 - Talk between Nanda and Krishna 

Narayana said- Lord Krishna who is blissful, complete in all respects the lord, the great soul, extremely devoted to his devotees, who appears on earth to rid of her burden, who is formless, beyond Prakruti, beyond all and Brahma, adored by Shiva, Sesha and is the lord of the universe, was pleased with the prayer of Nanda and spoke to him delightfully who was suffering from the pain of separation, getting upset and had arrived from Gokula. 

Krishna said- You go to Vraja and get yourself relieved of the grief and illusion on the earth. I am speaking to you the truthful and the best of the knowledge which removes the knot of grief. Listen to me attentively, there are five mahabhutas on earth known as the wind, the earth, the sky, the water and the tejas. О father, the shrutis testify that the bodies of all the creatures on earth comprise of these five mahabhutas, that is why this body is called Рancabhautikа. It comprises of false illusion, artificiality and is full of illusion like the dream. At the time of death, the entire body pancabhuta merges in them. Its indication, its form and identity are filled with illusion. 

Therefore, О fathers, who is the son of whom, who is the wife of whom and who is the husband of whom Jiva wanders in various forms for several births in various ways. Because the Jiva takes new birth because of his deeds and because of the karma it also merges into the great soul and it achieves pleasure, pain, fear and grief because of the past deeds. Someone is born in the heaven because of his deeds, someone is born in the house of Brahma, someone is born in the house of Brahmanas or Kshatriyas. Someone is born in the house of Vaishyas and someone is the born in the house of Shudras.

Similarly, it sometimes is born in the house of some degraded person, sometimes as an insect of the refuse, sometimes as an animal or bird and sometimes as a petty creature. 

Therefore, О father, all the people are born in their respective yonis again and again wandering here and there. But my devotee always remains engrossed in the uprooting of all the actions. 

There are four yugas known as Satya, Treta, Dvapara, Kaliyuga. Thus, after the completion of twenty-five thousand yugas. Manu, meets it with his end and the life of Indra has been equated with Manu, after the death of fourteen Indras continuously a day of Brahma is counted.

His night is of similar duration. This has been pronounced by those well-versed in the calculation of time. Thus, they have the month and the year. The age of Brahma has been calculated to be hundred years and after the death of Brahma, a single moment of mine is counted. 

Similarly, all the things right from Brahma to the blade of grass are perishable. I alone am the truth who take to human form to bestow grace on the great soul and the devotees. He who adores me reciting my mantra on earth, he, after death, destroying his past deeds, proceeds to Goloka.

He does not fall from Goloka even after the fall of innumerable Brahmas, he achieves the eternal body which is devoid of death. О Nanda, my devotees never meet with any misfortune at any time. Apart from that my Sudarshana-chakra always protects them. 

Therefore my devotee is more powerful than myself, but still I remain anxious; for him being a lord, I don't have any lord, father or mother therefore instead of taking me as your son, you adore me as a complete Brahma as a result of which you will be relieved of the fetters of karmas and shall proceed to Goloka. О lord of Vraja, the cowherdess Yashoda, the group of cowherds should be told about the reality and leaving aside the grief, you go back to your house. After thus speaking in the assembly lord Krishna kept quiet; thereafter, Nanda getting overwhelmed with bliss asked him. 

Nanda said- О blissful one, you bestow worldly knowledge on me by means of which I should be able to achieve your loka. Because I am quite devoid of wisdom and you happen to be the creator of the Vedas. On hearing the words of Nanda, the all-knowledgeable lord Krishna enlightened him on the daily routine as prescribed in the Vedas.